"I think I would rather the mainstream bends its ear to what I am doing than me do a back-bend to the mainstream. The people who are my heroes have always managed to do that and live on this axis of accessible pop music and also in the lunatic fringe." - you should've included that quote she clearly knows she's not 'pop-pop'. she's 'experimental pop' 'fringes of pop' 'alt-pop' not Gaga Cyrus pop. There are still heavy elements of pop music to her stuff
This message had two asks due to character’s limits. This is how it continues on the second ask: “and you didn’t even fully quote her response, or the question that led to it, or the previous Q&A which led to that.”
There are several things i would like to point out:
- St. Vincent is one of my favorite musicians and has meant a lot for me since the last couple of years
- In this post I wasn’t criticizing her, but admiring her
- I am aware I didn’t fully quote her full response. The reason is because that first sentence that I didn’t quote was “that’s always where I am interested”, that for being understood needs, as you pointed out, the previous question from the interviewer which is: “I love the idea of artists exploring how pop music can be presented in new ways – it seems like the ultimate goal”
That being said, I appreciate your interest but I think that you misinterpreted me. I never said that St. Vincent aims to be “pop-pop”, whatever that means. My aim was to reflect people’s opinion on her music, not to write how I think she thinks about her own music (you have the interview if you want to know that), and that’s why I decided to quote only that part of the interview (and besides the aim of quoting is to highlight something, if not I would have simply post a link to the interview.)
I think that your claim is that in my quote I didn’t put the part in which Annie says that she doesn’t want to change her own music to be part of the mainstream. However, in my quote that same thing is implied too: ” […] this weird world where music is accessible and likeable but cloaked in things that are strange and left field. That’s the realm where I naturally gravitate toward”.
Besides, pop doesn’t mean mainstream and mainstream is not an insult. For what I can understand, for you “pop-pop” means mainstream pop, that is the one of Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus, and whatever that is played on the radio. “Pop-pop” is therefore for you a term that designs the amount of listeners an artist has but not a music genre. My point is that although St. Vincent may never be as popular as the “pop-pop” artists, in terms of bizarreness, she isn’t that different from the pop scene, since when you see Lady Gaga there is something that tells you that she is not like the people you see on the street everyday.
Now, if St. Vincent wants to be bizarre and still pop (because just like there is unbizarre pop there is also bizarreness that is not pop), she is being risky, there is no doubt about that. However, the quote you showed me, is a hypothetical situation; that quote shouldn’t be mistaken with: “My aim is to keep being like I am and have the same amount of listeners of the ‘pop-pop’ artists”. I know most people are quoting that part of the interview you are showing me, but I personally think it’s not as intersting as what I quoted. While your quote reflects what basically every independent artist wants, to change the mainstream music scene, not many discuss about the pop in their music as Annie did in what I quoted.